I had the pleasure of being on The Other Stern Show. i met him after having someone who turned out to be one of his clients, Didi Wong on my show. he called me to find out more but me, and so i had him my show and had me on is show.
have a listen:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s3-e3-listen-with-daniel-bruce-levin/id1351038062?i=1000469020825